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arianamateoc · Dunker Data inscrierii: 17/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 17

What is your opinion about the relationship between Robinson and Friday - do you think it is a father and son type, or is more likely to be a master - slave type of relationship? Why?
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Ariana Mateoc, LRE III

Crasuc Bianca · Trimis: 20/06/2018 00:34 Titlul subiectului:

Their relationship seems to be ambiguous. At times the reader is given the impression that Crusoe and Friday, have a similar relationship that of a father and son, but at other times, Crusoe is the master, he is higher than Friday who is merely the slave, servant. In my opinion, there is a little superiority from Crusoe, formă expressed in the text, when Crusoe says, for instance "I made him know that his name should be Friday...I likewise taught him to say Master, and then let him know, that was to be my Name" I also consider to be interesting the fact that Crusoe never informs Friday, on his real name.

vaidatimea2017 · Trimis: 20/06/2018 12:04 Titlul subiectului:

Both. Father-son because of his preaching, he taught Friday everything about his lifestyle, but master-slave because Robinson would not learn about Friday's culture, he would not allow him to touch the provisions and weaponry, between the two there was no equality.
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Vaida Timea, CUNBM Litere LRE 2

ciurdas.emima17 · Rookie Data inscrierii: 14/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 4

Their relationship certainly seems to be ambiguous and open to interpretation. There are times when it appears to be almost based on a father-son type of intimacy, but others suggest that there is a clear master-slave element to their relationship. This latter perspective is reinforced throughout the text. For example: "I made him know that his name was to be Friday... I likewise taught him to say Master". The naming of slaves by their masters was key in Defoe's times, and the fact that Man Friday never knows the true name of his master indicates an attitude of extreme superiority.

arianamateoc · Dunker Data inscrierii: 17/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 17

I also think that their relationship is both types. But, from my point of view, the master-slave relationship is more defined. We know from the story that Robinson saved Friday, he gave him this name - and this is by far a very strong reason why we could say that, and we also know that whenever Friday tried to say something or give Robinson an advice, he rejected him and didn't took into consideration Friday's interventions. A father-son type of relationship is based on love, caring, looking up for your son, and obviously Robinson is not a father for Friday. He consider Friday more likely like a servant for him, he treats him like that, and all of Robinson's actions on Friday shows us a master - slave relationship between the two of them.
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Ariana Mateoc, LRE III

Alexandra Noje 17 · Trimis: 21/06/2018 07:06 Titlul subiectului:

I think that the relationship between Robinson and Friday is more like a master-slave relationship, rather than a father-son one. Certainly is that their relationship level is not balanced. Also, his attitude towards Friday demonstrate that he treats him with superiority. Sometimes, Robinson tries to treat him carefully, like father and son, but in the most of the time we receive a strong impression of Friday submitting himself to "eternal slavery" for Crusoe in thanks for saving his life. Friday is grateful, and he kind of admires him at some point. Of course that we cannot say that Robinson is the worst master ever for his slave, because he taught him to speak English and other European cultural things. Actually, Robinson gave him the name "Friday" and tries to change his behaviour, mentality and belief. Especially in the dialogue when they talk about God, he is surprised by his questions, because he didn't expect him to ask them. Also, the answers are just from Crusoe's point of view.
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Alexandra Noje, LRE III, CUNBM

Emanuela Negru · Dunker Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 18

I think that the relationship between Robinson and Friday is more like a master-slave one. Robinson felt so alone on that desolate island, and he wanted someone to talk. After Friday arrived Robinson become his Master. It's true the fact that Robinson teach Friday things about God, about culture but in his actions I can's see anything else than superiority. There appears the idea of racism, after Robinson rescue him he became in a way his loyal servant. Friday is full of gratefulness, he was so close to death and Robinson become his savior, he promised to do everything that Robinson want, like Robinson said at a clipă " ...for never man had a more faithful, loving, sincere servant than Friday was to me: without passions, sullenness, or designs, perfectly obliged and engaged; his very affections were tied to me,
like those of a child to a father; So, we see an acceptance of the situation from Friday's.Robinson see their relationship like a father-child one.
In that period black people were slaves and Robinson have this theory that europeans are superior to black people. For example,in their conversations Friday has nothing to say because he don't know as much as Robinson know about everything.When Friday ask about God's power to kill the devil Robinson answer with a new question "why God does not kill you or me,when we do wicked things here that offend Him - we are
preserved to repent and be pardoned." In conclusion, I think that their relationship is more master-slave one even if Robinson teach him more things. Robinson tried to made a man like him, he tried to made an "imitation" from all point of view, he wanted a Friday that had his behavior, his conception of life, his faith.
EMANUELA NEGRU, CUNBM,LRE I

ani.mihaela2017 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

The relationship between Robinson and Friday is more like a master-sclave than a father son-type .This kind of relation results from Robinson’s opinion about society. Negru skin people were considered inferiors to the white rase , that’s why the negroes were treated more like sclaves that equal in rights with the others. Since they first met, Friday called Robinson Master. Robinson is aware of the difference between their color skin so he will act like always, he will treat him like his servant.He teach him what to eat, how to dress, to read but there is still a distance that Robinson keeps: he doesn’t allow Friday to touch his things, he doesn’t really care about him.I mean he doesn’t care where did he lived, how was capturated by the cannibals, does he has a family, does he miss them and the most important thing, he doesn’t care about his real name.He called him Friday after the day he saved him. Before arriving on the island, Robinson lived in a bourgeois family, he was part of the society so he won’t forget so easilly how to treat negroes men.
Ani Mihaela, LRE I

PatakiRoxana17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 22/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

I think that the relationship between Friday and Robinson is both like father and son and master and slave. The relationship father and son reveals the clipă when Robinson tells Friday about God and the power of God against the Devil, trying to teach him good things, or even when he teach him how to speak and to write . All these show caring from Robinson’s part. The other relationship like master and slave is revealed in the ocazie when Robinson treats with indifference Friday and he don’t even listen to him because sometimes Robinson is not able to answer to Friday’s questions. Moreover, he feels above Friday due to the fact that he stands to black people class and Crusoe manifest as a racist. As a result Robinson oscillates the way he interacts with Friday.

Pataki Roxana, LRE I

luca.lorena17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 03/Apr/2018 Mesaje: 20

It's hard to tell if between them exists a slave-master relationship or a father-son relationship. I think that at first, in the beginning, after he rescues him, the bond between them is more a master-slave one, Crusoe looks at him with superiority, does not ask him what he calls him and names him after the day of the week he found him. Besides that Crusoe teaches him English, and the first word he says is "master („in a little time I began to speak to him, and teach him to speak to me; and first, I made him know his name should be Friday, which was the day I saved his life; I called him so for the memory of the time; I likewise taught him to say Master, and then let him know, that was to be my name”). But maybe Robinson’s attitude was caused by Friday's behaviour with Robinson when they first met, he treats him like a master, as soon as he saved his life, he knees and gives Robinson the impression that he will be his slave for life: „he kneel'd down again, kiss'd the ground, and laid his head upon the ground, and taking me by the foot, set my foot upon his head; this it seems was in token of swearing to be my Slave for ever”. I also think that during the novel, he behaves with Friday as a child, Crusoe teaches him a lot of things for the first time, for example to eat, and converts him to Christianity, as though a parent does with his newborn. I can say that Friday admires Crusoe and by the end of the novel Crusoe gets to see him as a friend, admiring his honesty and progress („I had a special satisfaction in the fellow himself: his simple, unfeigned honesty appeared to me more and more every day”), but also the fact that he is loyal to him.
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Luca Andreea Lorena, CUNBM, LRE III

Cristina.Ilcas17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 16/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 18

I believe their relationship is more master and slave type. It is very clear that Robinson treats Friday with a superior atittude as he tells him from the very beggining that he want's Friday to call him master. What does this mean? It means that Robinson has managed to establish a clear barrier between them. Furthermore we can not see a clear emotional connection between them. When you do care about someone you ask him question, you desire to know more about that person but what does Robinson do? He doesn't even asks Friday what was his name, what religion does he belonged to. It is true that Robinson teaches Friday how to talk in English but I believe he did that because of his need to comunicate with someone. Of course Friday sees in Robinson a saviour, as he resqued him so that is why jos loyalty is justified, or it can be because Friday is fascinated about everything Robinson has managed to do.
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Ilcaș Cristina, LRE III

ceuca.dorinela17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 28/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

I think their relationship can be also father-son, but also master-slav. Robinson is superior to Friday and he does not care about him and does not ask him anything about his life, his name, or about his experiences, also when Friday is asking something Robinson prefers not to answer him because he does not have a respond. Robinson gave food to Friday and taught him how to speak. Friday calls Robinson ‘master’.
Ceuca Dorinela LRE I

adrianacozma2018 · Trimis: 22/06/2018 18:06 Titlul subiectului:

I think the relationship between Robinson and Friday is not balanced. It is a master-slave relationship.
Robinson never looked Friday like a son. Even if he behaved nicely with Friday, never considered him equal.
Friday loved Robinson as a father. Friday proves his love for Robinson by going with him on the Continent. But robinson considered Friday to be only a slave.
Cozma Adriana , LRE

costedenisa · Rookie Data inscrierii: 15/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 2

The relationship between Robinson and Friday is one of the main reasons why this book had such a huge impact on the market at that time, in fact, i do believe that for the people of that time, the Robinson-Friday relationship was even weirder than the fact that Robinson managed to survive on an island for such long period of time.
The racism was in that century such an unusual thing that even the idea of a relation between a white male and a black one was so odd that people coud'nt get enough of it.

Teacher · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2008 Mesaje: 471

@Ciurdas.Emina
You whole post was copy-posted from e-notes (click [url=https://www.enotes.com/homework-help/discuss-crusoe-friday-relationship-novel-robinson-71793]HERE[/url]), a miserable cheat mill. But even if your "source" had been a reputable one, this would have still been an instance of plagiarism. I am not going to read any one of your posts for now. And you get a warning and a forum ban!

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Alexandra Noje 17 · Trimis: 25/06/2018 22:46 Titlul subiectului:

How many points did I get, teacher? :-)

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Alexandra Noje, LRE III, CUNBM

Teacher · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2008 Mesaje: 471

1.5, I guess. I skipped it. Thanks for pointing this out.