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EngLit
Seminar extension for the students in English Literature at CUNBM
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Adelinne
Diver
Data inscrierii: 11/Noi/2009
Mesaje: 62
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 Trimis: 15/06/2011 10:39 Titlul subiectului: THE DEAD by James Joyce |
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Among the things that surprised me in this story was Miss Ivory’s character. I found her strong, independent, without fears, feeling free to express her thoughts , her feelings. She had the strength to stand up to everybody if that meant to sustain her point of view, which had a great value for her | Citat: | | ]Well I am ashamed of you, said Miss Ivory frankly. To say you’d write for a paper like that. I didn’t think you wore a West Briton |
| Citat: | | And haven’t you your own land to visit, continued Miss Ivory, that you know nothing of, your own people, and your own country? |
Another aspect that got my attention was the ocazie when women who “slaved all their lives” the church were defended when the Pope decided to replace them | Citat: | | I knew all about the honour of God, Mary Jane, but I think it’s not at all honourable for the pope to turn out the women out of the choirs that have slaved there all their lives and put little whipper-snappers of boys over their heads. I suppose it is for the good of the church of the pope does it. But it’s not just, Mary Jane, and it’s not right. |
Michael’s apparition, another character who proved to be an important key in this story, changed a bit Gabriel’s thoughts and Gretta’s feelings as he was not a beautiful memory for her. Did this story of Michael affect Gabriel? Was he jealous of Michael or of Gretta’s feelings? Was he unsure about her feelings about him? Did he feel that Michael’s memory was stronger than his love for her? I think that even though at first he felt that “a vindictive being was coming against him”, at the end, his attitude was that of love and compassion for his wife “continued to caress her hand”. | Citat: | | And what did he die for so young, Gretta? Consumption was it? I think he died for me, she answered. A vague terror seized Gabriel at this answer, as if, at that hour when he had hoped to triumph, some impalpable and vindictive being was coming against him, gathering forces against him in its vague world. But he shook himself free of it with an effort of reason and continued to caress her hand. |
The epiphany, one word that is present in this story may be our existence which at some point means everything and after some time means nothing or is just “fading on into a grey impalpable world.”
| Citat: | | The tears gathered more thickly in his eyes and in the partial darkness he imagined he saw the form of a young man standing under a dripping tree. Other forms were near. His soul had approached that region where dwell the vast hosts of the dead. He was conscious of, but could not apprehend, their wayward and flickering existence. His own identity was fading out into a grey impalpable world: the solid world itself, which these dead had one time roared and lived in, was dissolving and dwindling. |
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Unguras Flavia
Dunker
Data inscrierii: 13/Noi/2009
Mesaje: 20
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| Trimis: 20/06/2011 12:56 Titlul subiectului: |
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Answering to my colleague's questions, I think Gabriel's life changed from the moment when Gretta confesses to him what she was thinking about at the party, about her first love, Michael Furey, who is dead now.
Gabriel feels not jealousy, but sadness on the fact that his love with his wife is not so strong as the one she had lived with Michael.
He felt | Citat: | | a vague terror [...] at that hour when he had hoped to triumph |
against the woman's feelings for the dead.
He is disappointed to know that as more she thinks about Michael, the more she makes him suffer; the memories of the past beeing between them and covers the present.
The dead becomes immortal in her heart, Gretta leaving on one side Gabriel's love for her to relive the sweet past.
The lifeless present makes the past stronger.
Ultima modificare efectuata de catre Unguras Flavia la 25/06/2011 00:24, modificat de 1 data in total |
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Ticala Ioana
Diver
Data inscrierii: 11/Noi/2009
Mesaje: 56
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| Trimis: 23/06/2011 16:17 Titlul subiectului: The Dead by James Joyce |
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The principal charachter of this novel is Gabriel Conroy and he will discover through lots of years standing with his wife that he never knew how it was his wife past.Gabriel is a strong man because he is thinking he's above the others when he says that the public would not know his words.
Ultima modificare efectuata de catre Ticala Ioana la 24/06/2011 20:06, modificat de 1 data in total |
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Ticala Ioana
Diver
Data inscrierii: 11/Noi/2009
Mesaje: 56
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| Trimis: 23/06/2011 16:24 Titlul subiectului: The Dead by James Joyce |
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He looked down the slope and,at the base,in the shadow of the wall of the Park,he saw some human figure lying.Those venal and furtive loves filled him with despair.In this quote is presented Mr.Duffy,he sees two lovers in a park in this qoute exist the image of eating this fact suggests us the importance of a union,from two persons because this feeling is absent in this story.Mr.Duffy wants to control the act of eating, because he wants evreything to control only his love he will be not able to control ,love is a feeling that we can't control.
Ultima modificare efectuata Ticala Ioana la 24/06/2011 20:11, modificat de 2 ori in total |
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Salageanu Adela
Dunker
Data inscrierii: 13/Noi/2009
Mesaje: 23
Localitate: Satu Mare
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| Trimis: 23/06/2011 17:56 Titlul subiectului: |
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| I consider that by this book it is shown how much the dead influence people's life. People should not give too much interest to the dead, they should remember them as they were and not to let their memory influence their lives. I think that Gabriel was jealous on Michael because although he died, he still had an influence on his wife's life, but Gabriel can not fight with the memory of a dead man, he must accept it as it is and try to be with his wife so she could forget him. |
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