EngLit

Alexandra Noje 17 · Trimis: 15/06/2018 21:55 Titlul subiectului: Pride & Prejudice

1. What does each character learn when they saw that their first impressions were wrong?

2. What does Jane Austen think of romantic love?

3. What does Jane Austen think of the role of love, adjustment and time before someone gets married?

4. Which character do you think is going to be happy and why?

5. What kind of parents are Mr. and Mrs. Bennet for their girls?
_________________
Alexandra Noje, LRE III, CUNBM

ioanaosan2017 · Trimis: 17/06/2018 22:01 Titlul subiectului:

1. Each of the character learns to know each other better before they have prejudicies. It is noticed that during the story, the two analyze each other, exchange opinions(when they dance). The first impresions as it was the first title of the book, gave the characters some wrong impressions on each other. Lizzy considered Darcy arrogant by his behaviour, and his way of speaking. This in why it is described as the most inflated and proud of the face of the earth. Elizabeth, in turn , is cataloged by Darcy as acceptable, but not quite beautiful tempt him. Obivously, Elizabeth is making a prejudice on him right away by cataloging the antipath" I would forgive his vanity if he would't hurt mine " Elizabeth later learns from Darcy that he does not talk much to people he does not know how to communicate with the world. That's why he did not dance with any girl at the ball. Darcy has the opportunity to get know Elizabeth better during her stay at his house to stay with her sister Jane, whom she has caught cold. And Darcy remains fascinated by her spontaneity and good mood. Elizabeth is trying to get more and more feelings about Darcy. As far as Jane and Bingley's first impresions are concerned, they did not have much prejudice because they liked the first, Jane being the most beautiful, kind and modest of the girls.

2. Jane Austen brought somethnig new to the concept of love, and romantic love, putting Elizabeth Bennet in the role of changing the mentalityof the society at that time. The romantic love for Jane Austen in this story is "the archetype of love that is born of hatered". The prejudices that Elizabeth and Darcy bring to one another , but ultimately to fall in love with each other. Jane Austen brought another kind of love, human love, not based on society's conspiraces regarding a marriage-only wealth.Another idea would be that "love is not forcibly", so Elizabeth and Darcy finally came to see that they were wrong about these prejudices.

4.I think Elizabeth( Lizzy) will be the happiest one, because she has won his love not only the wealth of Mr. Darcy . Elizabeth is intelligece and independent of other characters and has always been prejudiced by Mr Darcy, and has not conquered his fortune. Love for him was born of hate and prejudice. She also refused Mr. Collins offer to marry for his wealth. She refused, without any other reservations, saying"no". But Lizzy won Mr. Darcy in the end, concluding that she really loves him. "Darcy fell in love with her body and soul". And I think love is the greatest weath that women could have at that time.

5.Mrs.Bennet is the kind of mother for her daughters, which is guided by society's tab. Their mother, a woman with a little mind as the author himself, expressed only one very important desire to see all five married girls. She does not listen to his daughter not to be married to Mr. Collins. She rejects Collins's marriage request, which could have solved the problem of inheriting the family estate in the absence of a male follower.for this reason, Elizabeth's mother tells her that she will not see her again, while her dad says the opposite, that he will not see her anymore if she marries Mr. Collins. Mr. Bennet is smart and loves his daughters, otherwise he would not give Elizabeth to any man. So we can put Mrs. Bennet as a non-parentat parent and Mr. Bennet as exemplary, loving parent.
_________________
Osan Ioana Paula, CUNBM Litere LRE III

Cristina.Ilcas17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 16/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 18

1. First impressions are generally not true, as the characters learn that only by confronting the person you will learn what his or hers truly intentions are. Especially as there is a saying that fits here perfectly" Don't judge a book by it's cover".For example we can take the case of Elizabeth and Darcy. They both made wrong first impressions when they first meet: Elizabeth thought Darcy to be an arogand, snob, full of self man as she hears what Darcy says. Mr. Darcy believes Elizabeth is exactly like the rest of the girls, one that doesn't think for herself, a foolish girl, plus he says that Elizabeth is not that pretty. Only to end up being in love with each other, learning that we have to see through things. Another lesson learnt from first impression would be between Jane and Mr. Bingley. Mr. Bingley is attracted to Jane but when he wants to step in and make something in this direction Darcy tells him not to do that as he stongly believes Jane doesn't love him back. Instead of going to see if things were really like this, Mr. Bingley decides that he shouldn't do something.

2. "It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune, must be in want of a wife". I chose to begin my answer with this quote as I believe, Jane Austen wanted to show us the background of the society in which she lived. Back then girls could not inherit property unless they were married, so of course even boys wanted to dublu maybe their money. Jane Austen uses satire in order to make an image about the society, and what's most important to show her opinion about love. The author thinks that real love should win no matter the context. I believe that's why there is such a big contrast between the girls in general and their mother, because Jane Austen wanted to show the readers that love has no price and it should be true, not based on pride or on prejudice.

5. Mrs Bennet is foolish, careless and has no self awarness. Her aim is to marry her daughters. We can't say she was a bad mother. Yes she pulled some strings in order to make things happend as she wished, and yes she didn't ask the girls if they really love the man which she chose for them, and yes she may be ignnorant and she may have embaressed the girls sometimes but we have to remember the time we are speaking about. When there are almost no posibilities for girls, and realizing she has five girls she did evrything a mother would do: she made sure that her girls will have a good life, will have everrything they needed even if that would mean her daughters will be angry at her. Mr. Bennet on the other side is educated and inteligent. We can surely say that this is not a happy couple. His aim is also to marry his daughters, but does he do something in this direction? No, he isn't. He somehow doesn't agree with arranged marriages but also he does not rebelion agains it. He doesn't speak so much with the girls, he mainly stays in his office, away from all the problems, not having a particular opinion about what is going on.
_________________
Ilcaș Cristina, LRE III

arianamateoc · Dunker Data inscrierii: 17/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 17

2. Jane Austen puts in light, beside the society image and rules of it, how love was back then. We know from her that girls married from a very fragile age and they will live a happy life or not. So, Austen shows us that the true love wins above all, even above the strict society rules, and it shouldn't be based on pride and prejudice.

4. Even if the Elizabeth seems to live a happy life and finally a happy love, I think that Lydia could be the happiest. I think that, because she is the little one, is the favorite child, therefore therefore she was sent earlier in the society. Her sister, Lizzy says about her that she is ''vain, ignorant, idle, and uncontrolled'' which denotes that she does whatever she wants.
"My dear Harriet, You will laugh when you know where I am gone, and I cannot help laughing myself'' - even she is surprised by her actions; [..] ''I am going to Gretna Green, and if you cannot guess with who, I shall think you a simpleton, for there is but one man in the world I love, and he is an angel. I should never be happy without him, so think it no harm to be off.'' - she loves him and she seems to be very happy with him. She thinks about her happiness and doesn't care about what the society will say. I chose this quote that shows a letter from Lydia to Harriet, because it illustrates how much freedom she have, how happy she is with the man she loves, and she doesn't care what anybody will say.

5. First of all. Mrs Bennet has one aim: to marry her daughters. She was selfish if I can say, and she didn't care if her daughters would like the choices that she's making for them. From a moral point of view it's not good what she is doing, she is rude, immoral, ignorant, but from a realistic point of view, the society she lived in back then, somehow, ''forced'' her to do that. She had to marry her daughters, she had to make sure that they will live a wealthy life and they have everything they wanted, a life without necessities and worries, it was a must. In the other side, Mr. Bennet is the picture of the man that's reserved, he prefers to stay away from all the problems and doesn't show if he agrees or not with the marriages, but is not against any.
_________________
Ariana Mateoc, LRE III

PatakiRoxana17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 22/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

1.As we know that first impression matters we learn that they are not permanent and that we could be in error of what character of a person may be. The novel „Pride and Prejudice” is the best way of showing people not to judge a person or people’s actions until you know them or their reasons. The representative couple for judging each other is Mr. Darcy and Elizabeth who don’t like each other at the first sight and end up marring. Mr Darcy shows as an arrongant and full of pride and prejudice man who say that „Elizabeth is not handsome enough to tent me” and refuses to dance with her. Fact that make him seem very unapproachable. He also make many actions that will withdraw Lizzy from him. All these mistakes are explained in a letter sent to Elizabeth which brought with it the acquittal of Mr Darcy. In the end he seems to be an onest man with very strong feelings, not that arrogant one he seems in the beggining of the novel.

2. Jane Austin focuses to the aim of marriage at an early age in order to ensure each girl’s lifehood in her novels. This was the politic of that time and it seems to be a good surse of inspiration for Jane Austin. As a result, love could be true or false depending on who you marry with. In spite of the parents who impose girls with whom to marry, destiny has an important role and brought the right person to offer girls love and welfare, too. So, probably Jane let the fate to do its work regarding love.

4. I think that Jane is going to be the happiest because her man, Mr. Bingley crossed the treshold of prejudice and showed his true love in spite of Jane’s statute. We can say that she is very lucky because Mr. Bingley is the one who had the fewest prejudices but it’s debateable why he listened to Mr. Darcy to leave Jane because they are not meant to be together due to the difference of their rank. Probably he was not sure of his feelings. We may believe that Elizabeth could be the happiest, but we don’t know if Mr. Darcy won’t change or if he doesn’t have an essence of pride and prejudice. More than this, their love could be distroyed by Darcy’s aunt, who don’t agree this relationship because of her prejudice regarding the social class of Elizabeth. Instead of this Mr. Bingley showed his attraction for Jane from the first sight and come back no matter what to share his love. So, that’s why Jane should be the happiest because first of all she’s not as stubborn as her sister, Lizzy and found someone who didn’t judge her from the beggining.

5. Girls’ parents are very different. First of all they have a plan for their girls namely to marry them. The problem in Bennet family is the fact that they do not have a boy to be the heir as a result they follow to marry their daugthers how fast. When we talk about Miss Benet we see how selfish she could be because from the beggining. She is not thinking at the happiness of the girls, just to see them married to a gifted man. Her character could be revealed in the moment when she found out that her youngest daugther, Lydia has run away with Mr. Wickam. She’s still thinking to the fact that who will marry the other girls with a ruinous sister. More than this, Mrs. Bennet expected from Lydia to know how depression will cause her leaving to her mother. What about their father? Mr. Bennet is a calm man, totally different from his wife. He is also very known for one reply „Your mother will never see you again if you do not marry Mr Collins and I will never see you again if you do.” This answer reveal the true character of their father, that he cares about the happiness of Elizabeth, instead her mother who warn her and want disperately to marry her to Mr. Collins. As a result father proceeds correctly with the marriage of the girls, not thinking just at money but, at their happiness, too.

Pataki Roxana, LRE I

Alexandra Noje 17 · Trimis: 20/06/2018 09:26 Titlul subiectului:

1. The first title of the book was "First impressions", so we understand why. At the beginning, many of them had a bad first impression about the other one. For example, when Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy first met, she spoke to him and he was very arrogant. She also invited him to dance with her, but he refused. After, he said that: "She is tolerable, but not handsome enough to tempt me". After Mr. Darcy gets to know Lizzie better, and knowing her family, he falls in love with her, but he is somehow suppressing his feelings, because is too proud to show that he is in love with a woman from a lower-class like his. After he had a bad reaction when he saw Elizabeth with Mr. Wickham and he had separated Mr. Bingley from Elizabeth's older sister, Jane, he started to admit that he was wrong, and tries to correct his wrongs. He pays Mr. Wickham's debts, helps Lizzie's younger sister, Lydia, to marry him, also speaks with Mr. Bingley and after that, he goes to the Bennet's house and proposes Jane. Mr. Darcy did all of this things because he wanted Elizabeth to see this "human" side of him. He also confesses that he communicates hardly with people that he just met. By doing all this things for Lizzie, he learns the lesson of not being proud anymore, and wins against the prejudice of marrying a woman who is not equal with him (in the same social class). Elizabeth also learned that behind an arrogant mask it may be a very pure soul.

2&3. Jane Austen's novels are very appreciated even today. I think that's because she has an unique style to present such problems that societes from the 18th century dealed with. In that period, fathers told their sons and daughters whom to marry. In most of cases, there were marriages set up for money. The family didn't care about that person's feelings. Also, some of them were raised in that spirit (they were prepared for such thing in their future). In rarely cases, it happend that they have to marry a person they actually loved. Jane Austen is a sentimental novelist, putting on paper her true feelings and beliefs. Although she was never married, she has a beautiful soul that can embrace us all with her kindness and purity. She truly believed in love, as we can see in her novels. Courtship was also very important. It must be done both in particular (with the girl's family) and public. There also were som steps to follow: first, the man proposes the girl; and second, if she said "yes", he will talk immediately to her father. The society of the time didn't allow young people to actually know each other before their marriage. The rules were very strict, and they had to conform. Jane Austen is also very appreciated for her statements about love. One of them, which I like very much and I would like to share it with you, is the statement of Henry Tilney in Chapter 10 of "Northanger Abbey": "a man has the advantage of choice, a woman only the power of refusal".

4. I really think that Elizabeth will be the happiest. Lydia will be happy as well, and Jane too. But none of them has such a story behind the marriage like Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy. It is said that the more complicated and hard is a path, the more beautiful is the destination. From the very beginning there was an atraction between these two. Actually, from the "first impressions" (the first title of the book, before Jane Austen changing it into "Pride & Prejudice") even they don't realised it. Each of them had an inabordable behaviour, and they continued it long after they first met. They both are passionated by arts, Lizzie especially in literature, so they have this thing in common. The unknown is always more interesting than what you know. It really intrigates you when you see that a person talks to you the way both of them are talking to each other: ironically and sarcastically sometimes.

5. Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are a typically family from the 18th century society. Both of them want to marry their daughters, but in different ways. Mrs. Bennet is the one who is literally capable of doing anything just to see her daughters married. Mr. Bennet is very passive in the beginning. In my opinion, he gived the best advice to Elizabeth when she refused Mr. Collins's proposal: if she doesn't do that, her mother will not speak to her ever again; but if she does, he is the one who will not speak to her. Each of them had preferences between the girls. Obviously, Mr. Bennet's was Elizabeth, and Mrs. Bennet's were Lydia and Catherine. Also, when Mr. Bennet goes to see what happend to Lydia and her run with Mr. Wickham, he cames back and doesn't care about who resolved the whole situation. Just when Lizzie told him that was Mr. Darcy who payed all the money, Mr. Bennet said: "Oh... I have to pay him back!", but she said that is no need. Mrs. Bennet speaks too much, Mr. Bennet is always relaxed, and both of them are weird toghether.
_________________
Alexandra Noje, LRE III, CUNBM

ceuca.dorinela17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 28/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

1..I think that in the most cases the first impressions is almost going to destroy the relationships between characters. For example in Elizabeth case she thought about Darcy that he is an arrogant man also stubborn, sincere and she has never seen by his side. Also another important înfățișare in their relationship is Wickham who said some ‘dirty’ things about Darcy but in the end these things seems to be untrue( “ the late Mr Darcy bequeathed me the next presentation of the best living in his gift, he was my godfather and excessively attached to me. I cannot do justice to his kindness, he meant to provide for me amply and thought he had done it but when the living fell it was given elsewhere…a man of honour could not have doubted the intention but Mr Darcy chose to doubt it, or to treat it as a merely conditional recommendation and to assert that I had forfeited all claim to it by extravagance”). The discussion between Elizabeth and Wickham made her to have a worse opinion about Darcy but in the end things get clearer. After Darcy had talk to Elizabeth several time and dance with her, his opinion are going to be change and he thought about Elizabeth beautiful things and he become in love with her but because of his proud he is still distant for a while. Also Darcy at the beginning thought about Elizabeth that she is a girl like the other and also she was not beautiful enough for him. In the end all these things are going to be change because they starts to know each other and their behavior and personality are coming out.

4. In my opinion Elizabeth would be the happiest because he had a beautiful life and also her experiences were unique. Even she had a proposal from Collins she knew that her happiness was not in that relationship and she was thinking only of Darcy. Also Jane will be very happy with Mr Bingley because he was not interested about Jane`s statue and he was able to pass over any circumstances and to see a beautiful girl with a pure soul.

5. I can say about Mr and Mrs Bennet that are different personality but both of them have the same wish: to marry their daughters. Mrs Bennet was capable to do everything was necessary to marry the girls and this formă its obvious when she sends Jane to Mr Bingley`s house despite the fact that outside was rainning because she wants that Jane get sick and wants she to stay there for a few days. Also Elizabeth had a proposal in marriage from Collins, but Elizabeth refuses and has produced many controversies. Her mother wants that Elizabeth get married with Collins but her father doesn`t and in this clipă she is going to lose one of her parents. For Mr Bennet his favorite was Elizabeth and for Mrs Bennet was Lydia and Catherine. Mrs Bennet wanted to marry her girls as soon as possible but not with anyone and with a man who had money because their father would not give the inheritance to the girls.

vaidatimea2017 · Trimis: 20/06/2018 11:59 Titlul subiectului:

1. I would give Elizabeth as an example, the ocazie she realized what her behaviour was towards Mr. Darcy, her first reaction was the feeling of shame and how he managed to change and let go of his pride for her. Most characters sooner or later have this feeling of regret, except Lady Catherine De Bourgh :whistle: who we all now is full of prejudice...
2. Austen had a type, every novel consisted of the same love story more or less...although she never had this kind of love, adventure, she wanted a financial marriage, maybe it was something in the family because not only she didn't find love, nor her sisters, neither of the Austen girls ended up married... “There is nothing I would not do for those who are really my friends. I have no notion of loving people by halves, it is not my nature.” - Jane Austen, Northanger Abbey
4. Elizabeth of course. Letting go of her prejudice and, finally, admitting she was in love with Mr. Darcy brought her the happiness her mother wanted. :-D and her father, for she was truly in love with Mr. Darcy (some say).
5. Mrs. Bennet - uneducated, big-mouthed, thoughtless, irrational, desperate type of mother, thou many would say she was the only one concerned with the girls destiny, I believe her desperation to marry the girls to anybody only brought shame and misery at some point upon Elizabeth and Jane for example.
Mr. Bennet - educated, silent, ironic, calculated man, although he would not show it, he too was concerned of the marital status of the girls, but he would put their happiness above money.
_________________
Vaida Timea, CUNBM Litere LRE 2

Sabadis Andreea · Dunker Data inscrierii: 25/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 17

1.Everyone make a impression when see a person for the first time. It is said that the first impression counts the most. Well, Jane Austen contradict this words and write a book to see us that the frist impression sometimes can be wrong. In the biginning of the book ‚Prinde & Prejudice’ the main characters make a wrong impression about others. After they had had many meetings and after they had been in conflict one side with the others they found that the first impression was wrong. For instance, Elizabeth when saw Mr. Darcy the first time , she though that Darcy is a proud man. Maybe Darcy was a proud man, but after Lizzy found that how kind is inside Darcy, and after she find that he paid for her sister’s wedding, Lizzy changed her impression about Darcy. The men likes to look proud esspecialy in front of the women, so was Darcy in the first evening at dance, when he didn’t want to dance to Lizzy. Elizabeth learned that a rich man can have a kind soul and even if he had made mistakes, but he directed them.
4.I think that Lydia is the happiest character, because she didn’t care about his family, she didn’t care about how to behave in a society, how to choose a husband. She married with the first gay who told her about love. Lidya didn’t count about principles or the shame she brough on her family. She is a child yet and she didn’t see anything wrong in his actions.
5.Mr. Bennet is that father who don’t care very much about the will of his girls except Lizzy. In the end of the book he told Lizzy that he didn’t think that exist a boy that suits her, on her a boy who deserve her. Mrs. Bennet followed only to married her girls with rich men. She doesn’t care if one of the girl want or not. Moreover she behaved like a child , she is not a mature waman.She talk more. She represents a negative tip for her girls, because she guided about society.
Sabadis Andreea LRE I

luca.lorena17 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 03/Apr/2018 Mesaje: 20

1. On the one hand, some of the characters first impressions are just illusions, nothing of what they think at the beginning of each other, it's what they actually are. The first impressions are dangerous. For example, Mr. Wickham changes in Elizabeth’s eyes; when she meets him, she thinks the he’s a trustworthy, attractive and utterly different from Mr. Darcy, she’s sorry when she hears that he has had a rough time due to Mr. Darcy and shows mercy, but after she reads the letter from Mr. Darcy, she found out that he’s a gambler with a large amount of debt, and from that moment she thinks that Mr. Wickham is a horrible man, and beside this, he’s the man who seduced her sister and damage the Bennet’s name.
On the other hand, first impressions between Mr. Bingley and the beautiful Jane results in their love at first sign. She tells Lizzy about her impressions of Mr. Bingley: “He is just what a young man ought to be,” said she, “sensible, good humoured, lively; and I never saw such happy manners! - so much ease, with such impecabil good breeding!”, and Lizzy agrees with what her sister says (“He is also handsome,” replied Elizabeth, “which a young man ought likewise to be, if he possibly can. His character is thereby complete.”). Due to this first impression, Jane can’t help falling in love with him, and the sentiment is mutual. So, Mr. Bingley and Jane Bennet first impressions are favourable, because she’s truly the simple and beautiful girl who he meets at the ball, and he is really the man as he appears: kind, handsome and funny.
2. & 3. As Cristina said, the most famous line from “Pride and Prejudice”: “It is a truth universally acknowledged, that a single man in possession of a good fortune must be in want of a wife.” reveals the way in which Jane Austen thinks about love and about her role. Marriage is somehow like a business, because a man presents him in front of a woman (and her parents) as a possible husband without even talking to her, without really knowing her personality, and often without any signs of love.
Charlotte Lucas's marriage to Mr. Collins is exactly the kind of marriage women had in the 19th century, it is very realistic, but also very sad. The marriage to Mr. Collins is seen by Charlotte as the last chance to get married because she was a “sensible, intelligent young woman, about twenty-seven”, she was over twenty-five and neither pretty nor rich, so the decision she makes to marry an idiot and to put security above marital happiness, is the best for her (“Happiness in marriage is entirely a matter of choice”).
Even so, “Pride and Prejudice” ends with two happy marriages of Lizzie Bennet and Jane Bennet to men they trully love and who have a very large fortune. I think that this idea is a fantasy, because in real life the young women of 19th century Britain could just dream about it, but rarely or never happened.
4. Of course, Jane and Mr. Bingley, Elizabeth and Mr. Darcy, because they married their true love not being forced by circumstances and managed to get over everything to find their happiness.
Jane and Mr. Bingley fall in love because they are similar, for example Jane is friendly, kind and always sees good in others people, so is Mr. Bingley, he likes to meet new people and tries not to look at the bad part of somebody. Their relationship is strong and becames stronger after he comes back and propose to Jane, who is surprised and does not hesitate to say “Yes”.
“Pride and Prejudice” focuses on Elizabeth and her relationship progress with Mr. Darcy. At the ball, they doesn’t like each other, Elizabeth saw him as a proud and arrogant man, and he says about her to Mr. Bingley: “She is tolerable; but not handsome enough to tempt me; and I am in no humour at present to give consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men.”. But after some unexpected meetings, their views change and they see that they can communicate well, give each other mutual affection and that they are meant to be good for one another. She founds in him a true coleg who loves her unconditionally, so in the end I can say that Elizabeth is the winner of a loving husband and a happy life. (“You have bewitched me, body and soul, and I love, I love, I love you. I never wish to be parted from you from this day on.” – Mr. Darcy confession)
5. They both want their girls to get married, but Mrs. Bennet does from this an obsession. Her only goal is to marry her girls with men with a great fortune, she wants to make sure that her girls will have a good social status and a pleasant home where to stay after their marriage.
Mr. Bennet and Mrs. Bennet do no have a happy relationship, he married her for her looks (“Her father, captivated by youth and beauty, and that appearance of good humour which youth and beauty give, had married”), and later regretted, contending that marriage was a mistake because he was forced to bear the difficult personality of Mrs. Bennet. Maybe that's the reason why, when his favorite daughter, Elizabeth receives the marriage request from Mr. Collins, he is forced by his wife to talk to Lizzie, and he tells her: “An unhappy alternative is before you, Elizabeth. From this day you must be a stranger to one of your parents. – Your mother will never see you again if you do not marry Mr. Collins, and I will never see you again if you do.”. He doesn’t wants her to make the same mistake he made, Mr. Bennet wants Elizabeth to marry someone worthy of her.
Mrs. Bennet: “Her mind was never difficult to develop. She was a person of mean understanding, little information, and uncertain temper. When she was disconnected she fancied herself nervous. The business of her life was to get her daughters married; its solace was visited and news.”. She is a little too obsessed to marry her daughters, when she found out that a rich man, Mr. Bingley, is moving around, is excited and is already thinking that one of her daughters will be his bride: “A man of large fortune; four or five thousand a year. What a fine thing for our girls”. She cares just about her children getting married whatever it takes and doesn’t care how they feel about it.
Luca Andreea Lorena, CUNBM, LRE I

ciurdas.emima17 · Rookie Data inscrierii: 14/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 4

1. In Pride and Prejudice, one important theme is about the dangers of first impressions. In fact, Jane Austen originally titled her novel First Impressions. Because the two main characters, Elizabeth and Darcy both have distastefulfirst impressions of each other, they begin with animosity between the two. Darcy is not impressed with Elizabeth at first and makes insulting comments about her. Elizabeth overhears and immediately judges Darcy as rude and arrogant. Here we have a quotation from book, words of Elizabeth:"Frpm the very beginning, from the first moment, I may almost say, of my acquaitance with you, yours manners, impressing me with the fullesy belief of your arrogance your conceit, and your selfish disdain of the feelings of others, were such as to form the groundwork of dissaprobation on wich succeeding events have built so immovable a dislike, and I had not known you a month before I felt that you were the last man in the world whom I could ever be prevailed on to marry."
A quick prejudicial judgement can have negative consequences. In this book, Jane Austen makes the point that first impressions can be false and misleading.
2. Each of Jane Austen's novels centers around a group of unmarried young men and women, gathered in the same place, who will experience various attractions, rivalries, and misunderstandings before at some point being matched with a suitable partner. She presents a number of couples in supporting roles whose love and marriage seem to have been accomplished, sometimes before the novel commences, without any hitches. The more obvious reason why Jane Austen always entangles her main characters in difficulties is the same one that has spurred countless writers of romantic stories not to show the course of true love running smooth —namely, that two lovers who quickly perceive their compatibility and then marry happily provide a dull basis for any but the briefest tale.
3. Jane Austen is a writer who consistently judges her characters by a firm set of ethical standards, she is very interested in moral questions. She thinks that a girl shouldn t marry because of the position in society of a man and his material benefits. There need to be true love in a marriage.
4. I think Elizabeth is going to be hapyy at the end of the story because even she judged wrong at the beginning, she recognized her mistake and tried in some way to improve their relationship.
5. When it comes to parenting their five daughters, Mr. and Mrs. Bennet aren’t likely to be up for any awards. Both of them play favorites while neglecting to educate their daughters and have chosen an economic course that requires the girls to marry well or face lives of genteel poverty which their upbringings have made them entirely unprepared for. I really do think that in some ways Mr. Bennet could be considered one of Pride and Prejudice’s villains, primarily due to his neglect of his family. Mrs. Bennet really didn’t do her daughters many favors, but she does at least appear to be attempting to do something and if she wasn’t so focused on the idea of marrying her daughters off to rich men or so intellectually limited she might have actually accomplished something. Mr. Bennet was certainly aware of his wife’s limitations and obsessions and could have at least attempted to direct her efforts towards more useful pursuits.

Emanuela Negru · Dunker Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 18

1. You can't say you know a person after the first impression. First impression is always just ''an impression''. We all know how important is to make a good first impresssion. Making judgements about others based on our initial observation is certainly natural. From a psychological point of view the first impression is very important in our relationship with other people. But not always the first impresion reveals something honest about a person's character. For example, when Elizabeth met Mr. Darcy she thought that he is a very annoying and arrogant person, and she catalogued him after first impression. It's true that she had a good reason to think that he is an arrogant man when he talk to Mr. Bingley and said"She is tolerable, but not handsome enough to tempt ME; I am in no humour at present to give
consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men.
You had better return to your partner and enjoy her smiles,
for you are wasting your time with me.'' He saw she her like a countryside girl who doesn't deserve his attention. Mr Wickam also, for Lizzy seems to be a worthy and a brave man but after she knows him she is consciuos that she was plenar wrong. I think that each character learn to be more merciful. After Lizzy knows more about Mr. Darcy personality she understand his behaviour. He is an introverted man who can't talk with everyone. He lived in his ''own world and he can't open his heart. Lizzy learns that is not good to judge a person until you know more about his past, about his personality and especially about his life. Also, Mr. Darcy learns to be more emphatic. First time when they met, Mr. Darcy judge Elizabeth after her mother's behaviour. After a while he understand the fact that she is different from her family. I think that every character learn to be more amiable and don't judge a person after first impression because always you will failed.
2&3. In Jane Austen's time were more strict rules that you have to follow. For example, a girl have to be married at a specific age with a man that she dosen't love. Also, they should have the same social level. Marriage was considerated an arrangement between two parties. Jane Austen made a change with her book: she break the rules and she show a different point of view about marriage even if she wasn't married. I think, in a way Elizabeth represents the desire of every woman to be free in her choice. She is like a voice of her generation.
Love is certainly a necessary consideration, but not required for a good match. For example, Darcy has been promised to Lady Catherine Debourgh's daughter since birth.
For Jane Austen love was absolutely necessary for a good marriage. Elizabeth's attitude to Mr. Collins's proposal for marriage is very articulate and shows us the fact that is very important to love a person before the marriage.
4. Elizabeth will be the happy one in this story. I think you are a happy person when you are self-satisfied. Elizabeth is a different girl, he had a dream to love and to be loved by somebody, and her dream comes true and this is the thing that makes her happy. Her happiness doesn't depend of someone, of some place, she had an ''independent happiness". There are people whose hapiness depends of some events, someone's word. Her hapiness comes from inside, you are happy because you are happy, there is not a reason to be happy. This is your nature, is something like this i love you because I love you there is not a reason that I love you. When you looking a reason for something that means that you are not a happy person, but you try to convice yourselt that you are a happy person. Hapiness and love comes from inside, without reasons, that are abstract feelings that can't be explained.
5.Mrs Bennet is a very careful person about the girl's future. But she is too involve in this problem. For example, when Lidia run away with Mr. Wickam, she is very happy without thinking about the shame that her daughter brings to her sisters. She is a person without self-worth. For her time she can be considered a very good mother, but she's acting without dignity. Her behaviour affect the girls reputations, if she is acting like this,what are people expected of her daughters? People associate her behaviour with the education that she gave to her daughter, if she is like this, girls are the same,that means the girls will have a bad reputation.For example, when Jane was invited by Mr Bingley to his manor she made the arrangement for her to stay there more. She is interested to see her daughters married.
Mr. Bennet is total disinterested about the girl's future. Even if in his marriage he was not so involve, they are întreg contrary, he is phlegmatic and she is choleric. When Mr. Collins make a marriage's proposal to Elizabeth her father said to her that she wouldn't have a father if she will marry with her. But her mother said the opposite thing.
EMANUELA NEGRU, CUNBM, LRE I

ani.mihaela2017 · Dunker Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2018 Mesaje: 16

1.This is a novel based on first impressions and there is a clipă for everyone to see that they were wrong. Let’s take for example Elizabeth and Mr Darcy. They met for the first time at a local eveniment, where he was invited as he was a guest in that village. His first impression about Lizzy and her family wasn’t good. He saw a strange family, that are too noisy, who doesn’t know how to act in society, a mother with economical interests, a father who doesn’t have a word to say. He wasn’t impressed by their attitude so he think that everyone from Bennet family is the same. His wrong impressions could have a disastrous effect on his life and on the others: Jane and Bingley wouldn’t have married and also he could lost such an incredible girl as Elizabeth. But, in this equation also Elizabeth’s impression matter. She saw in his, since the first time, the image of a man too pride to look at a girl from a lower class. He was too arrogant to think that he is wrong, to think differently and to believe that she is not like other girls. So what does everyone learn after this? That you have to know that person and then to take conclusions, because the first impression, the way they act can be just a mask. Mr Darcy looked like a pride man but he just wanted to hide his pain after a cruel face, Bennet girls looked like five girls who just need a rich man and get marry, but Jane and Elizabeth were looking for true love. Even if Mrs. Bennet tries so hard to find rich mans for her daughters, maybe we shouldn’t characterize her after first impression because she was a woman and she knew it, she knew how hard will be the life for a woman, that they have no rights, that if they don’t get married they wouldn’t have a life after their father’s death.
2. Jane Austen is an author that writes about love. If we speak about the love stories from Pride and Prejudice we will notice that Jane and Elizabeth married the men they loved. I think for J. Austen is very important to be love because if there is only a marriage for business like you marry a man just because is rich, there will never be a strong connection.
3. In Pride and prejudice, Jane Austen shows us two kind of marriage. One based on interest and one based on true love. For example, looking at Mr. and Mrs. Bennet, we notice that there wasn’t a marriage based on love because they just don’t complete each other. She is too noisy, she acts too dramatically, without thinking about consequences, while Mr. Bennet is a calm person, is educated and doesn’t have a word to say in front of his wife. The worst part of this story is Lydia’s marriage. Like her mother she married for a statute, without loving and the most important without knowing that person. The other kind of marriage is represented by Elizabeth’s and Jane’s marriages. They couldn’t marry a man just to be married. They waited for the perfect man, they believed in true love and they did it, they married with the man they loved. When Mr. Collins asks for Elizabeth’s hand, from her reaction and answer we see that this isn’t the life she wants, also we notice this when Mr. Darcy proposes her for the first time. She just couldn’t say yes because she believed there were no love. So, I think that J. Austen believed in a marriage based on love, she knew that there is need for time to know, understand and love the other. Let’s take for example the ocazie in her life, when she was ask to marry. First she accepted but then she refused because she known she would never be happy with a man she doesn’t love. She believed in the power of love and she waited for this all her life.
4. In my opinion, the character who’s gonna be happy is Elizabeth, because she managed to know and choose the man she married. After she understood that the first impression was wrong she started to see in him a different person. She saw a man who knows to love and who wants to be loved. She saw an intelligent man, a man who will do everything for her happiness, the man who understand her. Maybe someone will say that Jane is gonna be happy because Mr. Bingley liked her from the first time he saw her. But, in my opinion a man who doesn’t know to fight for his happiness, who waites from someone to tell him what to do in difficult situations, will not be able to make someone else happy. This is Mr. Bingley, he is influenced by Mr. Darcy, by his sisters.
5. As I said before, Mr. and Mrs. Bennet doesn’t have a marriage based on love and this has a consequence in their family. Because they are so different, they act different as parents when it comes about their daughters. Everyone has a favourite daughter even if all are their childs. Mrs Bennet loves Jane more because she is more beautiful and because she will listen everything her mother will say. Mr. Bennet loves Elizabeth more because somehow she is more like him. She likes to study, she is calm and she has an opened mind. Mr. and Mrs. Bennet are bad parents. They have a war in their souls and this brings negative consequences in the relations with their daughters. Mrs. Bennet is too preoccupied to marry her daughters teaching them that is more important to be married than to love someone. She thinks that her husband doesn’t have much to live that’s why she acts both, like mother and like father. She doesn’t care about her husband’s opinion, while Mr. Bennet doesn’t even try to say something. He is very passive, he is too quiet, too lonely in his world. He cares only about Elizabeth happiness, about the man she’s gonna marry, and the most important thing, if she loves him. They are not a stabile family. With a mother that doesn’t care about her daughters happiness, only about what the society will say, and a father who doesn’t care at all, the relations with their daughters aren’t strong enough.
Ani Mihaela, LRE I

adrianacozma2018 · Trimis: 22/06/2018 17:08 Titlul subiectului:

I think that each character learns that the first impression does not always correspond with what a person actually is. Prejudices often make us see a person different from what is actually. .if you have prejudes , you can lose peoples before you have the opportunity to know them. So each character learn that isn't not good to have prejudices.
Jane and Lizzy going to be very happy . I say that because the two girls they marry out of love.
Pride & Prejudice it’s a novel of love , which describe a woman's condition in society.
I think that Mrs. Bennet is not a very good mother. Because she wanted Elizabeth to marry Collins, even if Elizabeth don’t loves Collins . Maybe if Mrs. Bennet would be more concerned about the feelings and ideas of her children, Lydia would not have fled from homemarried and maried Wickham.
Mr. Bennet is a good father because does not let Elizabeth marry . He wants his daughters to be happy ,
and so it proves what a good father is.

costedenisa · Rookie Data inscrierii: 15/Iun/2018 Mesaje: 2

1. Well, I hope they learned that comunication it's a crucial thing in any kind of relation . First impressions are 99% of the time, very wrong. People that take actions based on their first impressions are the ones that suffer or make other people suffer for nothing, it's the kind of people that make problems come out of nowhere and all these drama could be avoited by openly comunicating to eachother.

2.I believe that J. A. makes out of " romantic love" quite an goal for everybody. She is actually showing us that other forms of love ( not that honorauble ) could easly enterfeir in our journey through life and in our search of real love.

3. As I can tell, Austen thinks of love as an perfect way to live your life, but talking about adjustment before mariage, there's quite a subject to discust. In our days, people take time to figure out if they're asociat fits for mariage or not, while in Austen's novels, as in Pride and Prejudice, people just get married blindely, stepping into the unknown hopping for the best.

4. Definetly Mr. Collins. Why ? - Because of expectations !
It is actually quite simple : everybody in this novel has big expectations exept Mr. Collins that just wants his wife ( whomever she would be ) and his posision in his church. The guy doesn't seem very smart if you ask me, but he manages to get where he wanted.

5. First of all, they're very diffrent from each other. I do not tend to believe that they're bad parents for they're girls, I just think they are trying to work for the girls interests as each one of them knows better. I believe that both, Ms. and Mrs. B. are doing as well as they can and know, considering they're situation.

Crasuc Bianca · Trimis: 23/06/2018 02:50 Titlul subiectului:

1. There is a proverb that says “Every single person on the planet has a story. Don’t judge people before you truly know them, the truth might surprise you” I think that, first impressions are not always as appealing as what is really there. Here’s a pretty good example “She is tolerable; but not handsome enough to tempt me; and I am in no humour at present to give consequence to young ladies who are slighted by other men. You had better return to your partner and enjoy her smiles, for you are wasting your time with me.” These disdainfully replies, describe Darcy’s reaction at the Meryton ball in Chapter 3 to Bingley’s suggestion that he dance with Elizabeth. This line, it totally justifies the initial stages of Elizabeth's predjudice,but it also allows us to see Darcy regretting that statement when extraordinary events make her realize her mistake.
2. Jane Austen wanted a financial marriage not based on love or mutual interests, she chose not to use her life making a man happy, but she made most of the people happy, because of her writings, if I may say so. Also she sacrificed financial security and matrimonial happiness in order to retain the freedom to develop as a true artist, a complete woman.
4. After all, in the end of the novel, everyone is married and settled and happy ever after. I think the happiest is Elizabeth because she learn to control her prejudices, believed in the power of love, which is the most important element of marriage and she refused to accept a marriage which is not based on love.
5. I do not consider Mr or Mrs Bennet to be good parents, in view of the fact that he pays little thought to the girls' futures and seems to be a man who does not take anything seriously, also is detached from his family and is driven to exasperation by his ridiculous wife, which is noisy and foolish, consumed by a strong desire to see her daughters married and seems to care for nothing else in the world. “Mr. Bennet was so odd a mixture of quick parts, sarcastic humour, reserve, and caprice, that the experience of three and twenty years had been insufficient to make his wife understand his character. Her mind was less difficult to develope. She was a woman of mean understanding, little information, and uncertain temper. When she was discontented, she fancied herself nervous.”

Teacher · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2008 Mesaje: 471

@ Alexandra Noje:

Alexandra Noje 17 · Trimis: 25/06/2018 22:53 Titlul subiectului:

@Teacher

Thank you very much!
_________________
Alexandra Noje, LRE III, CUNBM