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dana_achim · Plunger Data inscrierii: 11/Apr/2008 Mesaje: 26

Which do you think is the role of the lines in this book? I mean the poems which are written during the story…Do you think that thees lines suggest something?... I would like to know your opinion about this.

Pomian Codruta · Trimis: 09/05/2008 19:37 Titlul subiectului: Flann O'Brien

According to the use of lines in "At Swim Two Birds", I think that these lines represent an easily way to express thoughts.
Another thing that impressed me in "At Swim Two Birds" was that the linear structure of the printed page does not constrain the author to a linear narrative. The reader of the book must mentally order the scenes and draw connections between them to save the book from being condemned as nonsense... :-)

claudia solomes · Plunger Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 40

First I have to say I am really happy that this forum exist.Is a second chance for all of us!
About the lines in Flann O'Brien's novel At Swim -Two- Birds I think that is like in Ulysses:mixture of styles, and we can find not only poetry but also those quotations from newspapers about an event that happened...
I find the book a very interesting one...and funny!I really enjoy this kind of humour! :-)

claudia solomes · Plunger Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 40

First I have to say I am really happy that this forum exist.Is a second chance for all of us!
About the lines in Flann O'Brien's novel At Swim -Two- Birds I think that is like in Ulysses:mixture of styles, and we can find not only poetry but also those quotations from newspapers about an event that happened...
I find the book a very interesting one...and funny!I really enjoy this kind of humour! :-)

claudia solomes · Plunger Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 40

First I have to say I am really happy that this forum exist.Is a second chance for all of us!
About the lines in Flann O'Brien's novel At Swim -Two- Birds I think that is like in Ulysses:mixture of styles, and we can find not only poetry but also those quotations from newspapers about an event that happened...
I find the book a very interesting one...and funny!I really enjoy this kind of humour! :-)

Laura Cornea · Trimis: 11/05/2008 12:17 Titlul subiectului:

Well, I guess this mixture of styles is specific for the modern literature. As Claudia said, there are not only "poems" but also quotations from newspapers meant to increase the narrator's authority.
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Laura Cornea · Trimis: 11/05/2008 12:18 Titlul subiectului:

Well, I guess this mixture of styles is specific for the modern literature. As Claudia said, there are not only "poems" but also quotations from newspapers meant to increase the narrator's authority.
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Laura Cornea · Trimis: 11/05/2008 12:20 Titlul subiectului:

Well, I guess this mixture of styles is specific for the modern literature. As Claudia said, there are not only "poems" but also quotations from newspapers meant to increase the narrator's authority. :whistle:

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POP CRISTINA · Trimis: 12/05/2008 08:24 Titlul subiectului:

what I find "strange" in At Swim Two Birds is the way characters and author are related.Only at the first meeting between Furriskey and Trellis they are on diffrent levels.Trellis apears as a shadow,like a divine power that tells Furriskey what he has to do and how he has to react in diffrent situations.

POP CRISTINA · Trimis: 12/05/2008 08:29 Titlul subiectului:

I also find it strange the way Trellis chooses his characters.they are from all categories and they don't fit for their role.Moreover they change their style of life throught out the book.

Laura Cornea · Trimis: 13/05/2008 18:11 Titlul subiectului:

monica p · Diver Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 66

Talking about Dana's question I think that all those lines make the difference between several styles of poetry because they belong to different poets: Cassey, Sweeny and other poets intertextualised by the student.For example, Cassey's poetry dedicated to the working class represents the poetry of low quality based only on rhymes and not on a deep content.

monica p · Diver Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 66

Talking about Dana's question I think that all those lines make the difference between several styles of poetry because they belong to different poets: Cassey, Sweeny and other poets intertextualised by the student.For example, Cassey's poetry dedicated to the working class represents the poetry of low quality based only on rhymes and not on a deep content.

maria pop · Trimis: 02/06/2008 14:12 Titlul subiectului:

what I found interesting in ''At Swim-Two Birds'' is Trellis' theory : writers should communicate and borrow the characters because so much was written that is almost impossible to invent something new. Following this system he,at some point ,hires a couple of cowboys from the specific novels and they are transfered on the Irish land.

maria pop · Trimis: 02/06/2008 14:20 Titlul subiectului:

I also find interesting the fact that Trellis' characters drug him in order to sleep more. I find this a postmodernist thing : the characters may influence the demiurg that created them. What is your comment upon this?

Laura Cornea · Trimis: 02/06/2008 17:14 Titlul subiectului:

mircea · Rookie Data inscrierii: 05/Iun/2008 Mesaje: 4

it's strange how the characters are alive like other people and somehow they work for the writer but this is only in the mind of the narrator, the creator of Trellis, and so, still fiction

mimic47 · Rookie Data inscrierii: 20/Apr/2008 Mesaje: 6

When I read your post about the fact that Trellis was druged by his characters to sleep more so they can act freely it suddenly crossed my mind the idea that everything is a reaction to something and that something may cause other reactions and so on, which means somehow that characters may influence their creator, even consciounsly.

If it is to strictly think of the relationship between creation and creator, we ususally tend to understand that the creator has the whole authority on it. But what if the creation made the creator? Indeed this was something really unusual in a modern creation, it's more like a postemodernist feature, but I don't think this is the point where we stop, I find this question rather interesting. What if Trellis actually "takes a break"? Could his creation become creator instead of him? because to me it appeared so when he had no power to control his characters anylonger, so he himself became a source of his creation Smile