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Teacher · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2008 Mesaje: 471

“Tess!” said d’Urberville.

There was no answer. The obscurity was now so great that he could see absolutely nothing but a pale nebulousness at his feet, which represented the white muslin figure he had left upon the dead leaves. Everything else was blackness alike. D’Urberville stooped; and heard a gentle regular breathing. He knelt and bent lower, till her breath warmed his face, and in a moment his cheek was in atingere with hers. She was sleeping soundly, and upon her eyelashes there lingered tears.

Darkness and silence ruled everywhere around. Above them rose the primeval yews and oaks of The Chase, in which were poised gentle roosting birds in their last nap; and about them stole the hopping rabbits and hares. But, might some say, where was Tess’s guardian angel? where was the providence of her simple faith? [...]

Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman, the wrong woman the man, many thousand years of analytical philosophy have failed to explain to our sense of order. One may, indeed, admit the possibility of a retribution lurking in the present catastrophe. Doubtless some of Tess d’Urberville’s mailed ancestors rollicking home from a fray had dealt the same measure even more ruthlessly towards peasant girls of their time. But though to visit the sins of the fathers upon the children may be a morality good enough for divinities, it is scorned by average human nature; and it therefore does not mend the matter.

As Tess’s own people down there... are never tired of saying among each other in their fatalistic way: “It was to be.”

"Tess of the d'Urbervilles" (2) by T. Hardy (1896)

nebulousness = nebulozitate, neclaritate (this scene takes place on a foggy night).
white muslin figure = silueta [îmbrăcată] în [rochie de] muselină albă
lingered tears = lacrimi care întârziaseră acolo
yew = [url=https://www.google.ro/search?q=yew+tree&client=opera&hs=AN2&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiWsqbA6abKAhUMbRQKHXjGDyYQ_AUIBygB&biw=992&bih=906]yew tree[/url]; arborele de zadă sau larice (conifer cu acele căzătoare)
were poised gentle roosting birds = stăteau în echilibru păsări blânde cuibărite
stole the hopping rabbits = se furișau iepurii care țopăiau
He knelt and bent lower = a îngenunchiat și s-a aplecat
Why the coarse appropriates the fine? = De ce [bărbații] grosolani pun stăpânire pe [fetele] delicate ?
mail = (also) zale, [url=http://shop.strato.de/WebRoot/Store11/Shops/245791/4CF8/2FEB/3EF4/7115/FA78/C0A8/29BA/24A7/DSCF8651.jpg]cămașă de zale[/url] (la o armură)
mailed ancestors = strămoșii înzăuați
rolicking home from a fray = întorcându-se acasă dintr-o bătălie
deatl the same measure = s-au purtat la fel (cu femeile) [by abusing them]
ruthelessly = excluzând milă
scorned = disprețuit
it was to be = așa a fost să fie

7A. After you read the first paragraph, what was your impression? As the man called d'Urbervilles approaches "the white muslin figure" (silueta îmbrăcată în rochie de muselină albă) sleepend in the woods, what do you think his intentions were? Is this going a tender loving scene? Or a violent one? Does the text you read so far offer you enough clues to establish this?

7B. Now read on... "But, might some say, where was Tess’s guardian angel? where was the providence of her simple faith?" Does this sentence change or re-orient your understanding of what is going to happen? In which way?

7C. "Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman?" (De ce masculii grosolani sunt cei care pun stăpânire pe soțiile delicate, de ce persoanele feminine nimeresc cu bărbații nepotriviți?) -- do you think this question regards the present or the future of the story? Is this a statement or an anticipation?

7D. If your answer at 7C is "anticipation", then does this represent an example of prolepsis or analepsis (Genette)?

7E. Who is speaking in the paragraphs containing the sentences given above? Are these paragraphs (from "guardian angel" to "it was to be") simple narration? Do they just narrate the facts? Or does the voice there add something beyond narration? What?

7F. Considering your answer at point 7E, what type of narrator we have here, in terms of ingerence in the narrative?

7G. If Tess is the main character of this novel, how much does the narrator know in comparison with her? Explain.

7H. Do you think there is a difference of vision between paracraph 2 and the rest of the text? So, is this text written in a monologic or dialogic manner?

7I. Identify the type of point of view using Schlomith-Kennan`s system. Explain step by step which questions you asked.

CCD · Dunker Data inscrierii: 26/Oct/2015 Mesaje: 21

7A. After reading only the first paragraph, I thought that d’Urberville is going to give Tess a gentle kiss on her cheek, but the text did not offered enough clues so I was not certain.

7B. This sentence changes everything. At first I thought that maybe it would be a tender love scene, but now I am sure that something bad is going to happen if Tess needs protections from her guardian angel (“where was Tess’s guardian angel?”).

7C. The sentence is an anticipation of the terrible future.

7D. analepsis;

7E. The narrator is not only narrating the facts, but he is also expressing his thoughts and philosophy about the injustice and unfairness of human condition (“Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman, the wrong woman the man…”).

7F. third-person omniscient narrator;

7G. The narrator knows more then the main character because he is talking about the story as if he knows that something very bad is going to happen to Tess who now is sleeping in the wood. ("But, might some say, where was Tess’s guardian angel? where was the providence of her simple faith?"). He also said that “One may, indeed, admit the possibility of a retribution lurking in the present catastrophe.”

7H. Yes. The text is written in a dialogic manner: there is the author who questions why bad things happen to good people and talks about how science failed to provide an answer to this question (“many thousand years of analytical philosophy have failed to explain to our sense of order”), and the characters who resign in front of their destiny and think that everything is about “faith”, “providence” and “guardian angel” (“As Tess’s own people down there... are never tired of saying among each other in their fatalistic way: “It was to be”).

7I. Type of point of view: A. perceptive facet: (space) limited view, (time) retrospective; B. psychological facet: (knowledge) unrestricted knowledge, (emotional component) subjective; C. ideological facet: the narrator’s ideology.

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Todorean Iuliana · Trimis: 18/01/2016 20:15 Titlul subiectului:

7A I guess that its a tender love scene, but I am not sure because the text doesn't give enough clues.
7B Yes it change because she must be in danger if she needs her gardien angel to protect her.
7C I think that this question regards the future of the story. This is an anticipation.
7D Analepsis
7E These paragraphs are not just a simple narration because the narrator add his thoughts.
7F An omiscient narrator
7G The narrator knows more than Tess because he knows that something is going to happen to her.
7H Yes it is a difference. I think this text is written in a dialogic manner, because we have at the begining:“Tess!” said d’Urberville, and in the end:“It was to be.”
7I The perceptive facet: limitated- space, retospective-time;
The psychological facet: unrestricted knowledge and subjective emotional component;
The ideological facet: the Narrator ideology.
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Ciobanu.Roxana15 · Trimis: 18/01/2016 21:31 Titlul subiectului: Ciobanu Ioana Roxana

7A - In my oppinion , i's about a tender loving scene but the text did not offered enough clues, so it's not sure.
7B - It's a little strange but re-orient my mind because in the begining i was sure that is a love scene but now i think that something bad it will be happen.
7C - This question regards the future and it's a anticipation.
7D - It is analepsis.
7E - The narrator know that something is bad and he gives her own oppinion , express her feelings and insecurity about the injustice about the humans.
7F - Omniscient narrator.
7G - Yes,it is. This text is written in a dialogic manner
7 I - perceptive facet- (space) limited view , psychological facet- knowledge and ideological facet-the narrator’s ideology.

Ananie Sorina · Dunker Data inscrierii: 01/Noi/2015 Mesaje: 18

Kopoșciuc Bianca

7.A. I think that it is a violent scene; maybe d'Urbervilles has impure intentions when he sees Tess in this hypostasis. I'm not sure, but I think that he wants to rape her;
7.B. I'm sure now that he wants to rape Tess. It's obvious that a bad thing will happen if Tess needs a ''guardian angel'' to protect her.
7.C. I think that this sentence is an anticipation of Tess's awful future.
7.D. It's prolepsis because it's an anticipation and a representation of something in the future.
7.E. The narrator epresses his thoughts, so it's not a simple narration. He adds his own opinions and ideas regarding the injustice that was comitted (''But, might some say, where was Tess's guardian angel?''; ''fatalistic way'').
7.F. I think that it's an intrusive narrator because he shares more informations regarding the scenery in which the action takes place (''a pale nebulousness at his feet''; ''a gental regular breathing'' ...)
7.G. The narrator knows more than Tess; he knows what's going to happen with her and he, also, knows the result of those actions and events. So, the narrator's level of knowledge is superior compared to hers.
7.H. Yes, it is a difference, because at the beginning of the text, he describes the scene warmly, like something romantic should happen. and then, in the 2nd paragraph, he changes his way of narrating, because he begins to give to understand that something bad happens. The text is written in a dialogic manner, because he asks some questions (''Where was Tess's guardian angel? Where was the providence of his faith?''), and then he gives us a subtle answer, representing, in fact, a collective human opinion (''It was to be'').
7.I. The Perceptive Facet: space - the limited view; time - retrospective, because the events are narrated in the past tense; The Psychological Facet: knowlegde - unrestricted; emotional component - subjective, because the Narrator express his own opinions; The Ideological Facet: the Narrator's ideology.

Teacher · Administrator Data inscrierii: 26/Mar/2008 Mesaje: 471

7A.
__Diana Ci: ++++
__Iuliana: ++++
__Roxana: ++++
__Bianca K: +++++
__Simina F: ++++

7B.
__Diana Ci: Very well! +++++
__Iuliana: Good. +++++
__Roxana: Yes. +++++
__Bianca K: Right intuition. +++++
__Simina F: ++++

7C.
__Diana Ci: +++++
__Iuliana: +++++
__Roxana: +++++
__Bianca K: +++++
__Simina F: +++++

7D.
__Diana Ci: -
__Iuliana: -
__Roxana: -
__Bianca K: +++++
__Simina F: -

7E.
__Diana Ci: +++++ Excellent, sensibly formulated.
__Iuliana: ++
__Roxana: +++
__Bianca K: +++++. Note: it should be "was to be committed" because, as you said, this was an anticipation.
__Simina F: ++ Nor very clear...

7F.
__Diana Ci: ++++
__Iuliana: +++
__Roxana: +++
__Bianca K: +++++
__Simina F. No such thing as "heterodiagetic view". +

7G.
__Diana Ci: +++++ Very well.
__Iuliana: ++++
__Roxana: +
__Bianca K: +++++ Very clear.
__Simina F: ++ but why?

7H.
__Diana Ci: Exceptionally well explained. +++++
__Iuliana: ++ Not very clear...
__Roxana: + Yes, but your arguments..?
__Bianca K: Excellent intuitions. Indeed the first paragraph, with its romantic athmosphere, represents the point of vie of the aggressor. In sharp contrast with the later point of view, that of Tess. +++++
__Simina F: -

7I.
__Diana Ci: +++++ Only that your last note seems to be contradicted by 7H. In fact you're right, as Hardy's philosophical statements dominate the individual perspectives of the characters.
__Iuliana: ++++
__Roxana: ++++
__Bianca K: +++++
__Simina F. +++++

SCORE (max 45):
___Bianca Kop: 45 -- just perfect!
___Diana Ci: 38 - very nice
___Iuliana: 29
___Roxana: 26
___Simina F: 23

Todorean Iuliana · Trimis: 19/01/2016 23:33 Titlul subiectului: hy there, I'm Simina Faje Lre 1

7A In my opinion the paragraph describes a place where nature is not so welcoming, and from everything described there I could say that the scene that is likely to happen is not a happy and nice one, and I thing that because of the clues that we have in the text, like [wrong man the woman] and D’Urberville asking himself about Tess's guardian angel,and also because of the darkness and silence that ruled everywhere.

7B the question about the guardian angel has changed my understanding about what is going to happen next, because as the girl had no guardian angel, a bad thing will happen to her
7C this statement is an anticipation of what is going to happen in the text, and I think that the girl was unconscious and he is likely to take advantage of this.
7D I answered that is an anticipation because this is an example of paralepsis
7E in that paragraph there is not only the voice of the narrator, it is also the d’Urberville voice, that combines with the narrator's voice, and the narrator becomes subjective, and even makes anticipations about what will happen
7F it is a monologic narrator, and the narrator express his opinions, ideology and philosophy through a heterodiegetic view.
7G in this case it is an example of paralepsis so the narrator knows more than the main character
7I A. the perceptive Facet
we have a panoramic view because we know how the place looks like, we don't know much but we have some details, and the time is retrospective because the action is presented using verbs at the past tense, and about the time there are two paragraphs wich are different, the first one has a retrospective time, and the second one has a panchronic time- in the part where d’Urberville's thoughts are the same with the narrator.
the emotional componet is subjective in both paragraphs, in the first one- all the dark environment is like a clue for the future events, and in the second one the thoughts of the narrator are presented directly- the ideological facet is the narrator's ideology.[/quote]
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Ananie Sorina · Dunker Data inscrierii: 01/Noi/2015 Mesaje: 18

Puiu Delia
7A.I believe that this is about a tender loving scene. The author said "He knelt and bent lower, till her breath warmed his face, and in a ocazie his cheek was in contact with hers." so I tend to believe that the use of such deep words gives this paragraph a romantic understanding.

7B. This sentence changes everything because people only need a guardian angel when they need to be protected. After reading this I am not so sure that the previous paragraph was about a tender loving scene.

7C. Giving the previous paragraphs and this sentence I think that what the author meant talking about |Tess's guardian angel is that she actually might be in love with the man that knelt near her but he is not right for her: "Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman?". In order to not end up with the wrong man she needed a guardian angel. I believe that this sentence is an anticipation.

7D. It is prolepsis, a figure of speech in wich a future act or development is represented as if already accomplished or existing.

7E. Those paragraphs are not just simple narrations. The narrator is involved in the story. The narrator shares his opinion about the inevitability of destiny happening as it was written and also about how even the brightest minds can be fooled by love: "Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman?"

7F. third-person and omniscient narrator

7G.I believe that the narrator knows more than Tess (n>c) because while she is sleeping he sees everything.

7H. The second paragraph is different because it changes our initial belief that the first paragraph is a romantic one. The text is written in a dialogic manner because the narrator asks himself things like: "Why so often the coarse appropriates the finer thus, the wrong man the woman, the wrong woman the man"and he is also the one who replies :" It was to be".

7I. perceptive facet- (space) limited view , psychological facet- knowledge and ideological facet-the narrator’s ideology.