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claudia solomes · Plunger Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 40

Hello everybodie :-)

!I would like to continue the disscutions about Lewis Carroll's novel also on the forum because there still are a lot of things to say about it.My questin is:Did you like the story?If yes why?If not why?(even if we already discussed about this,some of us haven't said a word :-)

,so let's do it now!)
I didn't like very much the story.As many of you already said I also found it illogical,it makes no sense for me.But on the other side I found it very very funny.I had a lot of fun when I read it,especially because of the characters.My favourites are The White knight and Humpty Dumpty :lol:

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mariussteaua88 · Trimis: 20/12/2008 23:05 Titlul subiectului: TTLG-LC

It's a great story in my opinion.Many of our college-fellows said that all was a non-sense.But it think that they over reacted because i think that everybody found something interesting during they're reading.I remember of my childhood and i can say that some parts of the story were similar to my silly games.Who didn't imagined that they can fly with they're toy plane and how many of u girls didn't played with the dolls and gave them names and had a tea party.Being a child is the best thing in the world that can happen.Why do all of you like to be adults?Wasn't it good to be little,to have everything u needed.Life was simple and funny.We didn't think about the money and richness.We were happy to recieve a chewing-gum and other things like it.We are hurrying to be adults but we don't see how important and fun is the childhood.I think that all the youth games are very important in forming our mind,to learn how to comunicate.[url=http://www.99poze.ro/p/52cebad675a25c27330461a3995fdfc1.jpg] "Through the Looking Glass "by Lewis Carroll "Through the Looking Glass "by Lewis Carroll

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claudia solomes · Plunger Data inscrierii: 08/Mai/2008 Mesaje: 40

Why do you think the author chooses the chess game and not another one?a game for children because we deal with a little girl in the novel.I think that exactely because this is a logical game, more one for adults than for children it's choosen by the author.He wants to show us that even when we grow up(and we are playing chess)we can still be children;we don't have to forget being children.
The chess game and the whole world in the novel with those strange characters are antithetical,an antithesis that should make us see we should't hurry being adults.

mariussteaua88 · Trimis: 30/12/2008 01:28 Titlul subiectului: Chess

I think that he tryes to demonstrate with this game that we(the adults)have an organised life...something sistematic,automated calculated life.All the moves that we make have a backup.While in Alice's world or game she doesn't think,instead she enjoys her life doing whatever she likes.Life is short,and we should live it without thinking about the next day.I think this is what the author is trying to say.....Live your life!because you don't know what tomorrow prepared for you! :innocent:

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Hi Claudia and Marius. I wanted to write earlier something about this novel, but I could not. Time's fault.. :-P

First of all, I think that this novel is a satire. In my opinion, Lewis Carroll wanted to satirized his society and he wrote this novel to express the stupidity, and all the bad things that happends in an unmoral society.
Secondly, this novel has some themes that we can omit them. Like Marius said... 'Live your life'... I will say more than that: 'Carpe Diem', but at the same time you have to be prepared for next day.. When we were a child, we act like a child... but know we are adults, so we have to act like adults. It is not so nice to jump your childhood, but if you did it you have to continue your life, to go on.. And some words about the chess game. We know that the chess game is a game for a better mind, good memory, good judgment, and also this game is good for imagination.. May be Lewis Carroll, through this game, he wanted to tell us that this game is not only for adult, but can be also a game for children. This game can help a child to have more imagination in his little 'world', and later on, can help him to be more calculate and to do less errors in his life. There are many to say about these things and actually about whole novel, but I will stop here for the moment. I hope you will answer me soon. Bye :-)

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ramona_covaciu · Trimis: 09/01/2009 20:10 Titlul subiectului:

ramona_covaciu · Trimis: 09/01/2009 20:14 Titlul subiectului:

something more..you know what i found funny to asimilate? the fact that the chess is in black and white... and at the begining and at the end of the novel apears Alice's two cats..remember by what colour? one black and the other white..exactly like the chess game :lol:

i don't know if this is an important thing, but i realised it..and wanted to share it with you :-)

Romana Petrovan · Trimis: 10/01/2009 22:17 Titlul subiectului: Hi there!

Well Claudia... if the story seemed illogical to you, I think you still have read it with the eyes of a child, especially if it made you laugh :-/

. For me it was quite a challenge to read it now because I was constantly thinking of a chess board because the moves that the characters made could be followed as in a game of chess. For example Alice being a pawn she could make only a single square move forward or if she would meet another character she would make a sloping movement. I think that explains her strange meetings with the white queen (which was able to run that fast because a chess queen can make a double sort of movement- a straight one and a oblique one towards any side of the chess board unlike the pawn who can only go straight ahead and never go back) and it can cross lots of squares on the chess board. Another example like this is the one with the hindered knight (remember that a knight on the chess board can make a ”L” type of movement, therefore he always falls down from the horse). There are lots of examples like this in the whole book and I could explain also the reversed laws of the other side of the mirror world. While the action happens inside the looking-glass, everything is reversed, that’s why the queen first screams and then hurts itself, that’s why first they eat the cake and then they cut it (in the chapter with the Lion and the Unicorn). I love the way Lewis Carroll thinks and I don’t think it was an illogical story. It’s true that it’s a non-sense for those who are asking themselves the wrong questions but as I said before this lecture was a challenge for my mind and I adore when a writer makes me think and see deeply in a work, because if not I have the “bad” habit of treating it superficially.

Carmen_Pop · Dunker Data inscrierii: 18/Ian/2009 Mesaje: 11

i can't say i liked the story but i can't say i didn't. I am convinced that if i were a child i would like it beacuse it is a book that requests you to use very much your imagination. we kind of lost our imagination on the road of growing that's why we can't understand it. If you think it is a logic book all that happens in it it happens with the help of magic. Do you still believe in it? No. that's why we find it hard we give up to our child naivity we look for complex meanings in simple things.let's not do that and see will we be able to understand it?